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No, I don't, if it's indeed true that women need a PhD to earn as much as a man with a BA. Wages are not equal. Women are still called whores for being openly sexual and proud of their sexuality, whereas men tend to more congratulated about being a 'stud'. I think it is obvious that right now there is still not complete equality between the two.
There is a major flipside though - I think women can get away with other things more than men can. Middle-aged women can be obsessed with young famous boys and barely anyone bats a blind eye. If men were all over Selena Gomez the same way women are fawning over Justin Bieber, most people would deem them 'perverts' or 'creepy' or something similar. 'Cougars' are celebrated, but men in the same position tend not to be.
A lot of people put little importance on men being victims of rape or domestic abuse, but with women of course it is a very important issue. I'm not saying we should start to ignore the droves of women in these situations to favor the less frequent male victims, but since society puts so much a focus on women being the victims of these issues (when's the last time you heard of a men's refuge center?) a lot of men are too afraid to come forward.
Women are "allowed" to show their emotions much more than men - if a man cries, somehow that makes him a 'pussy'. If a man writes soppy love poetry to his girlfriend, somehow, paradoxically, it makes him 'gay'. Wow, world.
I know I seem to have turned this into a 'men are victims' type thing, but I'm just highlighting the fact that there are actually a lot of issues surrounding men as well as women. Indeed, I've seen so many so-called feminists act like women ought to be superior over men, not equal, which really defeats the purpose. Perhaps a lot of women think men deserve to be inferior for once, but really, discriminating against men makes you just as bad. It's comparable to some gay people who are now acting like being gay is better than being straight - it's not, and calling straight people 'breeders' is just as derogatory as being called 'faggot'. I understand that the male problems I highlighted might seem less important in comparison to the droves of problems that women have always faced and still face today, but we can't ignore those problems either. Being a woman myself, it actually sickens me how some men, and men in general, are sometimes treated by women who themselves have been oppressed, and thus should know how it feels. It seems backward to see some women harping on about sexism against them, but then turning around and claiming "all men are scum" because the men they chose to be with were bad apples.
Equal should mean equal. Some people have used the "but men and women are NOT equal, they're different in so many ways" argument, but we're only looking for equal pay, equal judgment based on the same actions, equal standards, not that we want everyone to look and act the same and have no differences between them. Those people seem to misunderstand the fight for gender equality.
(This is supposed to be public, but I can't seem to choose that option. Anyone got a solution? I could make my journal public but then restrict all my entries except for Writer's Block to friends only?)
No, I don't, if it's indeed true that women need a PhD to earn as much as a man with a BA. Wages are not equal. Women are still called whores for being openly sexual and proud of their sexuality, whereas men tend to more congratulated about being a 'stud'. I think it is obvious that right now there is still not complete equality between the two.
There is a major flipside though - I think women can get away with other things more than men can. Middle-aged women can be obsessed with young famous boys and barely anyone bats a blind eye. If men were all over Selena Gomez the same way women are fawning over Justin Bieber, most people would deem them 'perverts' or 'creepy' or something similar. 'Cougars' are celebrated, but men in the same position tend not to be.
A lot of people put little importance on men being victims of rape or domestic abuse, but with women of course it is a very important issue. I'm not saying we should start to ignore the droves of women in these situations to favor the less frequent male victims, but since society puts so much a focus on women being the victims of these issues (when's the last time you heard of a men's refuge center?) a lot of men are too afraid to come forward.
Women are "allowed" to show their emotions much more than men - if a man cries, somehow that makes him a 'pussy'. If a man writes soppy love poetry to his girlfriend, somehow, paradoxically, it makes him 'gay'. Wow, world.
I know I seem to have turned this into a 'men are victims' type thing, but I'm just highlighting the fact that there are actually a lot of issues surrounding men as well as women. Indeed, I've seen so many so-called feminists act like women ought to be superior over men, not equal, which really defeats the purpose. Perhaps a lot of women think men deserve to be inferior for once, but really, discriminating against men makes you just as bad. It's comparable to some gay people who are now acting like being gay is better than being straight - it's not, and calling straight people 'breeders' is just as derogatory as being called 'faggot'. I understand that the male problems I highlighted might seem less important in comparison to the droves of problems that women have always faced and still face today, but we can't ignore those problems either. Being a woman myself, it actually sickens me how some men, and men in general, are sometimes treated by women who themselves have been oppressed, and thus should know how it feels. It seems backward to see some women harping on about sexism against them, but then turning around and claiming "all men are scum" because the men they chose to be with were bad apples.
Equal should mean equal. Some people have used the "but men and women are NOT equal, they're different in so many ways" argument, but we're only looking for equal pay, equal judgment based on the same actions, equal standards, not that we want everyone to look and act the same and have no differences between them. Those people seem to misunderstand the fight for gender equality.
(This is supposed to be public, but I can't seem to choose that option. Anyone got a solution? I could make my journal public but then restrict all my entries except for Writer's Block to friends only?)
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Date: 2011-08-26 05:14 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2011-08-26 05:55 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2011-08-27 08:48 pm (UTC)From:I think another thing to notice here is that calling a man a "pussy" is considered so insulting, because calling a man a word that mostly relates to a woman is "insulting". Same with calling someone "gay"... it implies that being gay is less manly than being straight. So basically in a sense, when people use slurs like that it's also degrading to women.
I agree with the points you made. There's definitely inequality between both sexes.
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Date: 2011-08-28 06:56 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2011-08-28 07:50 am (UTC)From:Great response. I agree with everything you said about slurs and remarks. But in addition, some people don't understand what equal means. Some men out there think, ok you women wanna be equal to men, then you take out the trash, change your own flat tire, and set up the surround sound in the house. They think that being equal means men and women shouldn't have a separation of roles, which isn't true. If a woman decides to be a stay at home mom, taking care of 2 kids, grocery shopping, cleaning the house, cooking a hot meal every night, and taking care of herself, it shouldn't make her worth less, or she be considered the "lesser sex" than that of the man who works his job, makes the money and supports the family.
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Date: 2011-08-28 06:55 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2011-09-01 05:33 am (UTC)From:Equal means equal, but many people don't look at both sides. I try to look at everything from both sides because that I think, is the fair way. A lot of feminists argue about women's rights but at the end of the day I think a lot don't really have their heart in the right place if you know what I mean. Some don't want equality, they want more power over the men which I don't agree too.
But yeah. I like the points you've raised ^_^ I wonder if we'll ever be equal in society. What do you think?
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Date: 2011-09-01 04:55 pm (UTC)From:Hmm, I'm not sure. It's comparable to race issues - do you think that blacks and whites are equal in society today? In some areas, yes, of course, but you will always encounter prejudices and even those in authority who discriminate, e.g. racial profiling. But in the general sense, the law etc., I think there is a chance, but on a person-by-person basis, there will always be bigots.